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No need for robust debate to be uncouth

Published: 2009/11/18 06:40:48 AM
 

Sipho Seepe

sipho_seepe@yahoo.com

THE secretary-general of the African National Congress (ANC), Gwede Mantashe, called on ANC alliance members recently to stop hurling insults. Vulgarity has replaced robust engagement. This uncivil engagement has been long in the making, rooted in the past but shaped by decisions we make daily.

Arguably, this development is a consequence of the intellectual suppression under former president Thabo Mbeki . Some of the best minds inside and outside the ANC withdrew from public engagement. The ANC was reduced to a one-opinion party with members’ engagement confined to echoing the president’s insights. Mbeki ensured there was enough for members to mull over.

The Letter from the President became obligatory reading but party members’ engagement was reduced to echoing its contents and sentiments. Ironically, he bemoaned the “startling and terrible relative absence of the black intelligentsia from the public discussion going on in our country about its transformation. There seems to be a paralysis of thought or a withdrawal from an open engagement of the burning issues of the day among this important section of our population, which is difficult to explain.”

So-called intellectuals, now paraded as the wise and brave among us, were not to be found. At best, they preferred to keep deafeningly silent. Some were active apologists of the madness of the time.

While they routinely paid homage to Nelson Mandela, they failed to defend him when he was roasted for expressing views different from Mbeki’s.

For his stance on HIV/AIDS, Mandela was accused of being the agent of pharmaceuticals and an icon who had become a villain.

Things changed with Jacob Zuma ’s sacking in 2005. Mbeki’s rule was challenged openly, triggering a protracted battle between Mbeki and Zuma supporters. Verbal abuse became a form of engagement, subsiding slightly after the battle of Polokwane. Mbeki’s defeat was engineered by ordinary folks, not the wise who emerged suddenly from the bunkers.

With Mbeki defeated, the so-called intellectual class can no longer claim the public space or dictate the terms of engagement. The likes of Max du Preez, Mamphela Ramphele, Kader Asmal, Njabulo Ndebele, Jonathan Jansen, and Mark Gevisser must now compete with Zwelinzima Vavi and Julius Malema. The space is now overcrowded.

But all is not lost. Jansen recently pointed out that Julius Malema is “unlike the impression I think in the media, he is an extremely smart person …. His ability to synthesise a fairly complex set of discussions that we had was amazing. I wish I had some professors who could do that.” Jansen should consider appointing Malema to teach a course on critical engagement and replace his professors.

On the positive side, the public space has been democratised. Unfortunately, this democratisation has coincided with its vulgarisation. The new occupants are diverse, and use diverse approaches and idioms to advance their cause.

Ordinary folks and workers embark on mass action, the educated class resort to e-mails, phone-ins, and signature campaigns to register protest. The differences are about style. Signature campaigns have the same chilling, intimidating effect. Like mass protest, signature campaigns are usually directed at an individual or institution. The educated class approach is most acceptable among their kind.

Contributing to this public vulgarity is the human tendency to push the boundaries of engagement. This practice was the preserve of artists and cartoonists.

But with public space being democratised, these groups cannot claim copyright on mocking, insulting, hurting, insulting and denigrating others. They can expect others to respond in kind.

We may have to ask ourselves if it is not about time we recrafted the terms of public engagement. We need to find a way to be robust but not disagreeable. We seem to be sliding into “a market of ideas in which bad ideas flourish and good ones die”. Our tolerance of vulgarity legitimises it. Insult does not invite rational engagement. Our silence condones it.

-Seepe is a higher education and strategy consultant.

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By: Ntinti On: Nov 18 2009 1:33PM
What is wrong with the self declared intellectual Seepe. I see no intellectualism in everything he says except the hatred and vulgar he spit out against Mbeki. Pure jealousy, tribalist, killing ANC from within mentality of Seepe period. Whos is he to insult our former President, where is your beloved President and his team's strategy- zilsch, shame on you and you are suppose to be a professor. The last time I remember you were a BC having a white women who has benefitted by your vulgar and given a DG post by Blade. Contradiction, contradiction. ANC becareful of this morons who are misleading you with an internal agenda of destroying the ANC. Watch the performance of that girlfriend DG otherwise Msholozi the same will happen, there are many Seepe's. Pls Seepe let your current leadership with space give us strategy of how we are going to come out of recession and stop calling Mbeki at night wanting advise, maybe you dont know its what is happening. Mbeki's shrewedness is now needed to vigorously push the international community to invest otherwise the monopolies are staying in their countries as they are also needed there. Also pls Seepe give credit to Mbeki, public works business as usual, HIV/AIDS wrong statics and less money than under Mbeki, and if
By: Tshisamphiri On: Nov 18 2009 2:30PM
We are sick and tired of your Mbeki bashing. Be careful most of the self proclaimed intellectuals who critise Mbeki without substance end up being financial broke. Ask your colleague, cash trapped Mangcu or Mr Red Wine former IFP warlord is going to give you a job at the dept of Higher education?. Please Business Day editor please we are tired of personal vendetta against individuals masquarading as analysis.
By: The Ethical Induna On: Nov 18 2009 3:34PM
Here is the news. The ANC is full of you commentators here - whether Xhosa-nostra or Zulu-boy, and, like pop, you're going to eat yourselves. Because you're little, like mice, the grass won't be flattened as you and your friends stare at your navels inside the ANC while the country begins it's count down to the end of this period of sellouts and exiles posing as Africans.
By: The Ethical Induna On: Nov 18 2009 3:35PM
But I do love reading the Seepe debate that debate is no longer possible. There has to be a sense of irony in our pal here, whether Ntini is too angry to laugh about it .. or not.
By: The Ethical Induna On: Nov 18 2009 3:37PM
And Credit to Mbeki ? Credit for destroying health services with his yellow friend? And for killing the children by not standing up and talking about AIds? Except with his mlungu half-German friend hanging off his presidential cash cadenza? Mbeki is eventually going to pay for helping destroy an entire generation in a way that would make DF Malan pleased ...
By: Independent On: Nov 18 2009 3:57PM
Sipho is a national embarassment,Business day must fire his sorry ***. Grow up, Man!
By: toczin1 On: Nov 18 2009 7:45AM
Mbalula, Malema, Meeko (All current ANC stalwarts)... all Zuma's kids...are leading in this game. Sipho you are now stooping too lower than I had already confined to you. What you are actually saying is that Mbeki's intelligence made these hotheads, who could not argue facts, realise that vulgar is the only thing that will help them win, and personal attacks is what will help get them power. Well, it worked..to the demise of the entire nation. Vulgar is indeed what the current ruling alliance excels on. Don't blame it on a retired former Pres, who you hate so much, when you can't come up with any intelligent discourse, you decide vent out the anger caused by your vacuum on. Admit Sipho, the Zuma v Mbeki saga gave you a lifeline for a while, and now that it seems to be over, you are left wandering intellectually..
By: toczin1 On: Nov 18 2009 7:50AM
In fact, what have you to say about current issues like the Eskoms, Armscor, Inflation targetting. You must be hating Mbeki so much,you can't bear a single paragraph you write without mentioning his name. Why have you to say about the current shoot-to-kill crises the country is facing? Please be relevant, Prof..
By: isaacshai On: Nov 18 2009 9:56AM
By: Independent On: Nov 18 2009 10:17AM
Sipho, Mbeki o jelletse mosadi na monna? Your obsession with Mbeki stinks, you need professional help. "Seepe is a higher education and strategy consultant" So, this is a ploy to have Nzimande to give u a job? ha!ha!ha! I just knew ANC had something in store for u (brain trusts)First it was Heath,then Paul Ngobeni,and it is your turn now. What about Mangcu?
By: geanann On: Nov 18 2009 11:29AM
Is this in defence of the stooges running around lying cheating and killing? See: http://letterdash.com/g.annandale/denialism-and-apartheid-birds-of-a-feather
By: shannig On: Nov 18 2009 12:36PM
Serious debate is still being stifled, as demonstrated by Gwede Mantashe's bully-boy responses to the likes of Deputy Chief Justice Moseneke and the alienated ANC stalwart Kader Asmal. Imagine Mamphela Ramphele in any kind of debate with Julius Malema!
By: Unity On: Nov 19 2009 5:45AM
I wonder if you are an ANC member, and therefore knew the feelings of ANC party members that you claim were suppressed, and "members’ engagement confined to echoing the president’s insights." I find it hard to believe that a whole NEC operated for nearly 10 years in fear, without robust debate. I was hoping that you were going to address the problem of the lack of instructive debate in the country, and not revert to Mbeki bashing. It is very boring, and not analysis.
By: thabang1322 On: Nov 21 2009 7:51AM
The bankruptcy of many respondents to Seepe's article is apparent. Seepe writes to explain the cause and growth of vulgarism in public response. In a most stupefying fashion his critics proves his points. They resort to personal insults and vulgarism of the highest order. Clearly the likes of Tshisamphiri, Ntinti and toczin1 have nothing but hatred for him. They compete at hurling insults and abusing his person. Seepe pointed out Mbeki's flaws long before the ANC got rid of him. Seepe is not responsible for this. I advise Seepe's critics to read the Business Day's editorial on why Mbeki must account for his denialism. As for Ntinti, Tshisampiri, and toczin1, they should learn to argue and stop polluting the space with their vulgarity and embicility. Bhungani is correct to remind us "Some of us still can’t believe that at one time he (Seepe) stood alone in questioning the direction the country had taken regarding HIV/ AIDS when all of those intellectuals and opinion makers that he has mentioned preferred to keep quiet." Thabang
By: thabang1322 On: Nov 21 2009 7:59AM
The bankrupcy of respondents to Seepe's article is apparent. Seepe explains the development of vulgarity in our public discourse. Instead of disproving his thesis, his critics resorts to personal insults and vulgarity of the highest order. In a most stupid way, the prove his point. Ntinti, Tshisampiri and toczin1's contribution is consitent. They have nothing to add except to express their hatred. As Bhungani puts it "Some of us still can’t believe that at one time he (Seepe) stood alone in questioning the direction the country had taken regarding HIV/ AIDS when all of those intellectuals and opinion makers that he has mentioned preferred to keep quiet." Ntinti, Tshisampiri and toczin1 must get a life. Seepe is not responsible for Mbeki's demise. It is the ANC that got rid of him. Thabang
By: thabang1322 On: Nov 21 2009 8:00AM
The bankrupcy of respondents to Seepe's article is apparent. Seepe explains the development of vulgarity in our public discourse. Instead of disproving his thesis, his critics resorts to personal insults and vulgarity of the highest order. In a most stupid way, the prove his point. Ntinti, Tshisampiri and toczin1's contribution is consitent. They have nothing to add except to express their hatred. As Bhungani puts it "Some of us still can’t believe that at one time he (Seepe) stood alone in questioning the direction the country had taken regarding HIV/ AIDS when all of those intellectuals and opinion makers that he has mentioned preferred to keep quiet." Ntinti, Tshisampiri and toczin1 must get a life. Seepe is not responsible for Mbeki's demise. It is the ANC that got rid of him. Thabang
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